Deep Thoughts on Hate
October 26, 2006
Seriously folks, I have been struggling for a long time with the idea of hate. I may loathe, despise, but do I really want to hate? Is that a healthy quality to possess? Does it distract us from our lives so much that we lose sight of what is really important? I’m talking about grown-ups behaving badly (soon to be a new series on this blog). Kids are innocent, grown-ups create monsters and hate.  Do we hate Islam as a whole, people of different religions, color, sexual orientation, opposing political views or can we intelligently disagree? I’m not a deeply religious people, but do believe that hate will cause the end of the world if anything does. Now don’t confuse me with an anti-war Code Pink psycho. War is a necessary evil and has been since the creation of the world. Just talking out loud trying to make sense of it all for those who are out there reading & listening. Talk back to me…..Â
Posted in Greta
![[Valid RSS]](valid-rss.png "Validate my RSS feed")
content rss
October 26th, 2006 at 9:04 am
Hate is a part of being human, just like love. What you have to do is make sure that neither emotion is destructive.
October 26th, 2006 at 10:27 am
I would not hate someone just because his religion is different from my own. But if some people say that their religion requires them to kill me, I have no problems hating them.
October 26th, 2006 at 10:54 am
> Now don’t confuse me with an anti-war Code Pink psycho.
But it’s OK to dehumanize them, right?
October 26th, 2006 at 12:57 pm
Sure BH – free country free speech & all. But if Mother Sheehan fell in front of me – I would pick her up. I hate how she behaves – but don’t hate her as a person.
October 26th, 2006 at 6:41 pm
There’s a difference. I recognize Bush as the most destructive anti-American occupant of the White House in history, but if someone were trying to assassinate him, I would take the bullet. You, on the other hand, would not even help up a fallen Cindy Sheehan.
October 26th, 2006 at 7:22 pm
ou, on the other hand, would not even help up a fallen Cindy Sheehan.
Why do you say that? Greta just said But if Mother Sheehan fell in front of me – I would pick her up.
October 26th, 2006 at 7:30 pm
Sounds like a bit of hate coming from BH.
October 26th, 2006 at 7:31 pm
BH – read again.
October 26th, 2006 at 7:42 pm
I don’t find hate terribly constructive, but I don’t find pretending it doesn’t exist too constructive either, some societies are based on it, and appeasing hateful aggressors does not seem to diffuse their hate, look at France, can any country be more appeasement minded? yet the Muslim hordes go forth and burn a few dozen cars and are even graduating to busses there now, France’s crime against Muslims to warrant such rebellion? providing Muslims easy immigration to their country from whatever shithole they came from, providing them nearly free housing, food medical care, and some spending loot to buy bottles and gasoline.
folks are going to have to decide whether they want a civilized world for their children or not. on both sides of this issue, but Americans need to, I think, quit the rediculous moral equivilizing that decrees average american housewives are just as evil as Muslim’s who strap bombs on their children to prove Allah is merciful
October 26th, 2006 at 8:03 pm
Mark – exactly my point. Hate is the foundation of Muslim extremists. They are so caught up in it – they are completely blinded to the rest of the world. So should I hate all of them just for being born?
October 26th, 2006 at 8:32 pm
well Greta,
I went to Don’s site right after leaving the last comment and I see you’ve been there, the same problem Europe has will get here too if folks won’t stand up for THEIR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!
I don’t hate any Muslim who is willing to live and let live, but the ones trying to kill my family, friends, way of life? umm.. yeah, I guess I have a problem with that. should I see a shrink?
even if only 10% of the worlds muslims hate western culture and want to destroy it, that’s a big army, a hundred million is nothing to sneeze at, personally, I think the figure is higher, they will stand up for their hate, will we stand up against it? or fold like the romans against the goths and vandals? I don’t know, right now we seem to think staring at our navel will yield the answer.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:41 pm
I guess I like the Austrailian approach:
CANBERRA: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told
>on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted
>radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a
>group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a
>special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers
>made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter
>Costello hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the
>country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and
>its laws were made by parliamen t. “If those are not your values, if
>you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then
>Australia is not for you,” he said on national television. “I’d be
>saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing
>people in Australia, one the Australian law and another, the Islamic
>law, that this is false. If you can’t agree with parliamentary law,
>independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law, and have
>the opportunity to go to another country which practices it, perhaps,
>then, that’s a better option,” Costello said.
>
>
>
>Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he
>said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the
>other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters
>that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should “clear
>off”. “Basically, people who don’t want to be Australians , and they
>don’t want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then
>they can basically clear off,” he said. Separately, Howard angered
>some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spies
>monitoring the nation’s mosques.
>
>
>
>BRITS, AMERICANS and CANADIANS…..! ARE YOU LISTENING?
>This is Leadership with guts! The way it is. The way it should be.
>Our men and women died in two world wars to get us this country and we
>are giving it away!!!!!
October 26th, 2006 at 9:07 pm
Mark – I think the difference here is twofold:
1. trying not to hate
2. fighting for your freedoms and your Country
You betcha, I would gun down anyone that tries to hurt my family and sent my hubby off to war to fight a fight I thought was worth fighting. But I am getting where I can’t even watch the nasty political adds that breed hate & the smear/personal destroying campaigns. I think most grown-ups in the public eye behave badly and forgot what they were taught as a child!
October 26th, 2006 at 9:27 pm
Greta,
I’d agree wholeheartedly, the two candidates vying for the govornorship in Arkansas (where I live) is a good example, niether side has run an ad in weeks covering their goals and ideas, they just slam each other like a couple of pre-pubecent boys. personally, I think we need a “none of the above” choice on ballots, and when “none of the above” wins, all those candidates should be removed and a new primaries started immediately.
that kind of behavior should be rejected completely by all sides, it just makes me want to puke, (on them, iff possible) and should NEVER be rewarded by the electorate voting these clowns into office.
I’m thinking of writing in “no candidate of acceptable maturity found” in my governor’s race.
October 28th, 2006 at 3:11 am
[...] Seriously folks, I have been struggling for a long time with the idea of hate. I may loathe, despise, but do I really want to hate? Is that a healthy quality to possess? Does it distract us from our lives so much that we lose sight of what is really important? I’m talking about grown-ups behaving badly (soon to be a new series on this blog). [...]
October 29th, 2006 at 1:16 am
Cotillion Colloquy
I was reading blogs and Cotillion emails last night, simultaneously, and thought it was a perfectly good time to blog a little about the Cotillion Colloquy. That’s how I think of it, colloquy. I mean, there is A LOT of chatter over there.
October 30th, 2006 at 7:44 pm
Hate is a fine thing. It cleanses your palate for what you truly, deeply love. But hate at the expense of eating your own soul, perhaps not. When the balance is off, that is when you know something is terribly wrong with you. Too much Stepford style “lovey-love” is just as bad. Hate gets difficult when it is personal. It is easy to say you “hate” Liberals, but when you get down to it, could you kill one? With your own hands, for no other reason than a political belief?  Of course not. Most of us would even be hard pressed to muster the RAW HATE it would take to personally kill a Terrorist. You think you could, but really, could you?
October 30th, 2006 at 11:34 pm
[...] Hooah Wife has an interesting conversation going on hatred. Swiped the chuckle from her too. H/T: Blue Star Chronicles [...]